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Re: باسخ‌به: Question 12 years, 2 months ago #4170

  • Patrizia
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Dear Ostad Jalilzadeh, I wish to do a question, a strange one I fear, and I hope not too much stupid.



Looking at this video I hear Master Rahmanian giving the time to his hamrahan. In my old "school" the teacher said "Tic" ( I know it is wrong..) and I don't understand what is he saying. And why does he change the sounds now and then? Is there a rule?
Also in the beautifull video of you in Laleh Park, you say it in 2 different way! Why? and What are you saying?
Excuse me for this question.....

Re: باسخ‌به: Question 12 years, 2 months ago #4172

Dear Patrizia,
I don't know what mr. Rahmanzadeh did in his class and I don't care what he does because, he is not approved as a Master.

But, on the video you had a link or you mentioned why when we count for the class, it sound in two different ways.
The Master in the class counting like me, (So and Gi).
(so and gi) are like one and two for counting. If you notice he counts "Gi" when class or the students need to make a "Kia", this way he helps them to remember, there is a kia time.
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Re: باسخ‌به: Question 12 years, 2 months ago #4173

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Dear Ostad Jalilzadeh Thank you!!!!
Well...of course what he does is a bad copy that being wrong is also...bad! anyway.....their problem and not mine anymore.

Wonderfull, now I know!
"GI" for kia and "SO" for the other moments. I tried for so long to understand and I didn't . Also this is important for me. Thank you so much! TO'A
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Re: باسخ‌به: Question 12 years, 2 months ago #4174

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Dear Ostad Jalilzadeh, I have a question on the beginning of atado.
I don't like how I do it and I understand there is something wrong that I need to correct. I will try to be as much clear as I can.

I refer to the picture in atado lesson "atado12-3.jpg", picture 1.

Move the right leg to the left and make an Orato defence with the right arm and an Afma defence with the other (pic 1).


I am asking about the legs.
Could we say that in the picture number 1 the stance is quite like a "cat position" but for unmodified rato? "Cat position" we know is an horaima rato with 10%-20% of the body weight on it and on the front part of the foot. In this case we have it as in Unmodified Rato.
I need it to built a "mental frame".

How much low do I have to keep my body?And how much close the knees has to be?
Looking at the pictures and the videos, your right leg is quite 90 degree to the ground, while your shin is almost parallel to the floor, and you don't bend forward too much, probably just as much you need to do an Orato defence with the right arm. If I try to put my right leg as you do, I cannot take my right leg so close to the left leg, and my position is very alike that in the picture number 2, the one in which we go with a mato to the lower part of the body of the opponent. But if I try to take the leg closer the right leg...than I cannot be so low and my shin is not parallel to the ground.

So I have 2 possibility:

1- lower position, right leg with upper part at 90 degree to the ground and shin almost parallel to the floor. In this case I am low but my legs are closed at leve right knee - left ankle.

2-higher position, legs close at knees level.

Can we say that in the picture number 2 the stance is like the one in picture number 1 but the legs are separated?

I hope to have been clear. Thank you!

Re: باسخ‌به: Question 12 years, 2 months ago #4178

Short Poem
“Correct Time”

This poem beautiful dialog between teacher & students. Many students in the class but one student is very intelligent. Teacher talking with class about how we improve handwriting so first we grip the pen with three fingers. It’s the key behind the beautiful writing. The intelligent student name is like “A”.

All students question to teacher about three fingers practice but the “A” making a question who is the Founder of Pen. Teacher tell the “A”, B is the founder of pen, “A” is saying thanks teacher you are great can I ask more questions teacher says yes ok no problem.

With the passage of time the “A” making many question like.
Only one name of pen, any more name. what is the first pen color. Why I grip three fingers. Can I grip with two fingers etc…. Teacher clear all question as a Great teacher and asking “A” this time you need practice but “A” is still making Question and asking, allow me I wish to say something about pen, I think deeply every point, I need knowledge etc…

After some months all class going to perfect handwriting but “A” is still here and he making new questions every day all students concentrate pen griping but “A” is concentrate new question. With the passage of time all class beautiful handwriting with great knowledge about pen.

Result: Just concentrate teacher’s word he always knows when gives the practical knowledge, when gives the theory or history.

Re: باسخ‌به: Question 12 years, 2 months ago #4179

Dear Patrizia,
You are right, the stance at number 1 position in the picture is an unmodified Rato, but like the opposite of the Cat position for Horeima Rato.
The reason for it is: you have to touch the knees together to protect the groin to not get hit by a kick such as "Neyma Keyeto" which is part of the Suto techniques. (remember I explained before, that in classical fight Atado goes against Suto).
Because of the knees touching we have to get a small stance (Rato) and keep the leg close to each other, to have good balance, we must keep the knees bent to bring our hight down. That is why you see the shin is parallel to the ground.
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